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Poster: Round Robin Date: Sep 18, 2010 6:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Head Count

I guess basically anyone who has some shows/albums and listens to them with some regularity. If they've seen the Dead or some incarnation then its a bonus.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 19, 2010 12:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Head Count

Just had to add: again, "rabid like me/visiting the Forum/more than 50 live shows on CDs" category = ZERO.

Lets call that "level one"; but, "level two", the "few shows/some albums/some live shows on CDs" is again, over 20 incld family and friends. Truth is, almost all of them owe this sad condition to me, having been the one that forced them to hear them til it "took" or they stopped coming round...seriously. It was all I did in the 70s. Well, okay, I wasn't that obnoxious, but kinda.

However, for "level three", just wouldn't turn off the radio if they came on, or say "hmmm, THIS is the DEAD? Not bad" to me now and then, I'd say it's easily 150 or, most of those are not "close friends" but you get the idea.

I am just posting because the more I thought about it, the more I realized that all thru my life, playing it at every "function" at my home (parties, dinners, slideshows, whatever), I've had the chance to see how many respond (over a 40 yr period), and what NOW surprises me is to realize I could always, almost absolutely, play some tune for someone that would get them to say "not this a lot more than I thought I would".

It's really a bigger number than I thought it would be if you follow...again, that "third level". Might be some were "just being nice" but not many.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 19, 2010 10:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Head Count (closeted Heads)

Yeah, and I've also been surprised at how many people will respond to an offhand comment or in-joke with at least some kind of recognition. Sometimes I've known people for years, never thought they even heard the band, and then I'll say something offhand and they'll be way more positive or somewhere between your "second" and "third level." Or it'll turn out they regularly turn on the Sirius Dead channel. Or something like that.

I also think there are a fair number of "closeted hardcore Deadheads." I mean, it's not college; nobody starts a conversation at the kid's playground or at an office meeting by asking about favorite bands. And few of us run around in tie-dyed Dead t-shirts anymore.

Here's a funny and illustrative story. A few months ago, I went to the office of a colleague I'd known slightly for years -- suit and tie, short hair, very academic -- and dang if it wasn't a veritable shrine. Band photos, Jerry doll, framed tickets. Whoda thunk? But the context was a meeting with a bunch of other folks, so I just had the chance to say something offhand about liking the decor; we said a few things but then never had a chance to talk more before I moved. So undoubtedly he's classified me as what you'd call maybe third-level, casual fan ...

There's also the little matter of, well, cycles in our lives. Even before Jerry died, I went up and down in the number of shows I'd see, etc, based on all kinds of things in my life. (Was my boyfriend at the time into the Dead? Did they even come around? Was I more into, say, the art scene than the hippie scene? Whatever.)

And then, well, Jerry died. How many of us really paid a lot of attention after that? Honestly, I had my DPs and other official releases and all, but I wasn't running around after DSO or part of a tape trading group. I wish I'd paid more attention to Phil and Friends, for instance, but I didn't. It wasn't until I discovered the archives a few years back that I really went into a feeding frenzy, LOL.

So if you happened to meet me in, say, 2003, it might have taken quite a while before we'd have connected on that level. And I have a feeling there are lots of folks I've run into over the years who are precisely the same way. Cycling up and down in their level of interest, or not particularly overt (what with it not being college anymore), or whatever.

Hence, perhaps, the high number of folks here who mentioned siblings among the Deadheads they know. Yeah. Of course. Because you don't lose touch with siblings (the way I've lost touch with exes I used to go to shows with, and have no idea now whether they still tape trade, etc) and because the subject might actually come up!!!

This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2010-09-20 05:49:50

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 20, 2010 6:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Head Count (closeted Heads)

Hmmm--we really had similar paths...whatever. IE, from about 85 to 95, you would've had a hard time recognizing me, but anyone that got to know me knew I was one (I talk a comes up, one way or another fast). Then, the day he died, I put the old famous photo of JG and MG from 67 on my office door, and then a few yrs later, the kids gave me a DEAD poster and it's on the lab door, and now, I have a wall of CDs, tastefully arrayed, in the living rom. So, if you see me anywhere in my domain, you can't avoid detecting it...

Funny thing is, NO one ever says anything. Only one person has known who JG and MG are...I've asked maybe 30 times.

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 20, 2010 11:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Head Count (closeted Heads)

Ha! I have a SYF head cover on my (golf)driver. I've been sporting it for a few years now. Exactly 1 person has made mention of it on the course. He had been to a few shows with his brother. Yep, I think people are afraid to ask. Which I understand. I'm not about to ask a trekkie about the convention. It would burn off both my ears!